Started 27-Aug
Competent mystery thriller but dating fast.
The chanting druid doods are back and there's not much new there. There's some variation of chanting semi religious assembly in too many Williams/Read productions.
Famed old time British actor Beatrix Lehman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_Lehmann) makes what turned out to be her final screen appearance as the little old lady archeologist. The performance is charming and accomplished (watch the eyes) but the character seems out of place. Nevertheless this is the standout guest star appearance of series 16.
Mary is great to watch and a rival for screen real estate with Tom.
Tom is angry and raging through most of the script. The story director Darrol Blake tells of Tom's domestic habits on the DVD making of doco makes you wonder about his state of life. Susan Engels as Viven Fay is merely adequate and not very impressive. He comes across as patrician rather than suspicious or menacing.
The other roles are unremarkable.
I think swapping roles for Engels and Lehman would have been a good move. Cutting the DeVries (both of them) altogether would have helped too.
The hyperspace stuff is fantasy, made up rubbish. Nothing to do with Einstein at all. But this is DW so I guess it comes with the territory.
The Ogri are presented as classic DW monsters but they are ridiculous when subject to the scrutiny of any rational analysis. How do they move? What 'biological' process makes them awaken? There's a throwaway line in p2 their origin on a planet in Tau Ceti and that they survive there on the contents of amino acid pools...(oh yes..) and the nearest equivalent is human blood (globulin)... well it isn't. The nearest equivalent is seawater or maybe brackish swamp water... but how does it work? It doesn't.
The way the Ogri suddenly appear in p2 seems to be missing a setup scene.
Also the shot of the Ogri scooting past the studio set window is repeated in p2 and p4. It looks pantomime to me.... come to think of it the smashing through wooden doors get used more than once as well.
The Megara are fun but they come out in p3 and 4 as a way to stretch out the plot. They are realised in a simple but imaginative new way. The actual effect was done by Mat Irvine holding an apparatus with two sets of circling reflective balls on a frame with a pair of bright lights which flashed according to the dialogue (like Daleks). This was half keyed into the regular scene by semi fade while the other actors left a gap in the scene.
Nowadays, you wouldn't even think of doing it that way. It'd be green screen and CGI for sure.
The story is set in the "present" but the forty years since have not been kind. The stuff with the missing portraits and Viven Fay's backstory identity is fascinating but in the 21st century, would be quickly solved by Googling not any brilliant deductive insight.
Likewise the uncertainty about the number of stones would be much more easily verified. (Here's the wikipedia site for the location https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollright_Stones) Indeed the Rumford/Fay stones survey would be done by remote sensing and proper spatial surveying, not silly notes in little books. It seems ridiculous that such a survey would even be necessary nowadays.
This is some variation of what novelists call the pre-mobile phone effect.
The real world would have some serious questions for Professor Rumford after the story finishes. Dead bodies at the camp site and the stones, all that damage at the Manor house, no sign of Miss Fay and she's been eating her sausage sandwiches. What happened? Er, yeah....well, there was this Doctor and a robot dog....and some homicidal, moving giant rocks.
But the story is interesting and engaging even if the ending is a little anticlimactic and unsatisfying...
The 100th DW story is routine and unremarkable. We've had three good ones in a row. That's about Graham Williams' limit isn't it?
ABM Rating 3.40/4.00
LJM Rating 4.25/5.00
SPJ Rating 9.10/10
Link to Cumulative Rankings
No. 20 (out of 100)
Rankings Scoreboard
Tuesday, 27 August 2019
Wednesday, 21 August 2019
099 The Pirate Planet
Started 21-Aug
Moons of madness!!!
There's something almost lyrically poetic about some of the dialogue in this.
It is recognisable Adams.
Try this
As well as the beautiful brevity of the scene and the arch way the guard plays it it is just great drama. It sets up questions like: why are telescopes forbidden? why are the Captain's guards so anxious to ban things? Romana's learning about Zanak quickly. That's great storytelling.
The scenes in p1 where the Doctor fails to attract the attention of Zanak passers by, then Romana does it without any trouble at all, then when the Doctor tries again they actually start running away is actually one of the funniest DW scenes ever filmed.
Here's another favourite (from p2):
The story is a compelling mixture.
It has pathos and heft.
But it has B movie plotting... 'evil' mentiads, crap laser gun fights and blowing up the Captain's Bridge/Castle are dull tropes.
And part 4 falls away with bafflegab explanations and an explosion which makes the story feel unresolved and the viewer let down unfairly somewhat.
Also it is known that the filming of this started with scripts for p3 and 4 undelivered. Douglas was struggling to meet deadlines even this early in his career.
But this is pretty brilliant otherwise and seems kinda modern in 2019. A lot of the fan criticism of it stems from timid conservatism. (That is a trend which will er,... develop.) But I think it's fair to say that it might have been even better with a bit more thoughtful plotting.
ABM Rating 3.60/4.00
LJM Rating 4.25/5.00
SPJ Rating 9.80/10
Link to Cumulative Rankings
No. 11 (out of 99)
Rankings Scoreboard
Moons of madness!!!
There's something almost lyrically poetic about some of the dialogue in this.
It is recognisable Adams.
Try this
- (Out in the plaza, Romana is using a telescope to get a better look at the metal building up above them. A guard walks up to her and takes it away.)
- GUARD: This is a forbidden object.
- ROMANA: Why?
- GUARD: That is a forbidden question. You are a stranger?
- ROMANA: Well, yes.
- GUARD: Strangers are forbidden.
- ROMANA: I did come with the Doctor.
- GUARD: Who is
- ROMANA: Ah, now, don't tell me. Doctors are forbidden as well.
As well as the beautiful brevity of the scene and the arch way the guard plays it it is just great drama. It sets up questions like: why are telescopes forbidden? why are the Captain's guards so anxious to ban things? Romana's learning about Zanak quickly. That's great storytelling.
The scenes in p1 where the Doctor fails to attract the attention of Zanak passers by, then Romana does it without any trouble at all, then when the Doctor tries again they actually start running away is actually one of the funniest DW scenes ever filmed.
Here's another favourite (from p2):
- ROMANA: You mean you knew they were here? You knew that this mountain's really a spaceship and it's broken down?
- DOCTOR: More or less, yes.
- ROMANA: But how? How did you know?
- DOCTOR: Well, I just put one point seven nine five three seven two and two point two oh four six two eight together.
- ROMANA: And what does that mean?
- DOCTOR: Four!
- ROMANA: Four!
The story is a compelling mixture.
It has pathos and heft.
- DOCTOR: Then it's the most brilliant piece of astro-gravitational engineering I've ever seen. The concept is simply staggering. Pointless, but staggering.
- CAPTAIN: I'm gratified that you appreciate it.
- DOCTOR: Appreciate it? Appreciate it? What, you commit mass destruction and murder on a scale that's almost inconceivable and you ask me to appreciate it? Just because you happen to have made a brilliantly conceived toy out of the mummified remains of planets
- CAPTAIN: Devil storms, Doctor! It is not a toy!
- DOCTOR: What's it for? Huh? What are you doing? What could possibly be worth all this?
But it has B movie plotting... 'evil' mentiads, crap laser gun fights and blowing up the Captain's Bridge/Castle are dull tropes.
And part 4 falls away with bafflegab explanations and an explosion which makes the story feel unresolved and the viewer let down unfairly somewhat.
Also it is known that the filming of this started with scripts for p3 and 4 undelivered. Douglas was struggling to meet deadlines even this early in his career.
But this is pretty brilliant otherwise and seems kinda modern in 2019. A lot of the fan criticism of it stems from timid conservatism. (That is a trend which will er,... develop.) But I think it's fair to say that it might have been even better with a bit more thoughtful plotting.
ABM Rating 3.60/4.00
LJM Rating 4.25/5.00
SPJ Rating 9.80/10
Link to Cumulative Rankings
No. 11 (out of 99)
Rankings Scoreboard
Saturday, 17 August 2019
098 The Ribos Operation
Started 17-Aug
Liked it.
A neat and satisfying story with great characters and performance.
Lots of sparkling dialogue.
Monster's a bit rubbish...
Mary makes an impressive debut. Tom is showing signs of irascibility.
Direction is a bit haphazard. The ep ends are strangely flat.
A good example of story over effects.
The key to time idea is new but it boils down to a giant maguffin.
ABM Rating 3.60/4.00
LJM Rating 4.49/5.00
SPJ Rating 9.68/10
No. 9 (out of 98)
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Liked it.
A neat and satisfying story with great characters and performance.
Lots of sparkling dialogue.
Monster's a bit rubbish...
Mary makes an impressive debut. Tom is showing signs of irascibility.
Direction is a bit haphazard. The ep ends are strangely flat.
A good example of story over effects.
The key to time idea is new but it boils down to a giant maguffin.
ABM Rating 3.60/4.00
LJM Rating 4.49/5.00
SPJ Rating 9.68/10
No. 9 (out of 98)
Link to Cumulative Rankings
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My tongue is getting a bit dry...
Sunday, 11 August 2019
Season 15 autopsy
Season 15 has lurched to an ignoble end. There are 26 episodes like the previous year. Tom is still the Doctor. The UK TV ratings are still amazing. The budget is under control (to the extent that it can be under control in the 1977 UK economy with 20% inflation.)
I think we've got our blog ratings pretty right. 2 all time clangers (Underworld, Invisible E), a struggler (Invasion), 1 reserve grade (Image), 2 minor classics (neither of them near THE top) (Horror, SunM's)
But the quality of the scripts is a serious problem. It shows what a remarkable achievement the previous 8 series has actually been. The script mess is not unprecedented (hello Series 6) nor is it never gonna happen again (hello series 23).
The series average rating from the DW Marathon Blog has mostly maintained or increased every series since John Wiles reign.
The series 15 plunge from mid 80's to high 50's is sudden and unprecedented. But it might be a thing made of the statistics. Arguably if the top and bottom scores are removed we've still got another horrible clanger and a classic. The average rating is a product of DUAL clangers in a short 6 serial season. (Series 3 had 3 clangers out of 10 with 2 good and the rest very ho-hum. Series 13 had a clanger too and ended up no.2 on the list.)
It was an amazing run. It had to end. But this way? This bad? Unlike in Series 4 the climb back will be long and hard, full of false dawns and not all in the right direction.
But why? Was it the (effective) sacking of Hinchcliffe? Was it the way Robert Holmes' departure was managed? Is Anthony Read a unsuitable as script editior? (Alongside other DW script editors he does seem a bit second division....) Clearly the handover of script editors is reminiscent of Series 11. But the biggest obvious difference is the new guy has never worked on DW before. If the script ed had been Robert Banks Stewart or Chris Boucher or even Bob Baker he would have coped better with script fall throughs. (He'd have seen it happen before, at least.)
Is Graham Williams a poor producer or just failing to achieve when faced with the impossible? If George Gallacio or David Maloney had been appointed producer then maybe someone with a bit more care for the product would be in charge.
Given the budget troubles they may not have had any better success however. It is very f-ing hard to be innovative and have artistic integrity when headaches about how to pay the bills take over the daily agenda. There is a rumour that the 26 episodes of Series 15 had a 40% budget cut compared to Series 14 ON TOP of the rampant inflation. If that's true the miracle is that there's 26 episodes at all, not whether they're any good or not.
The decade of DW's unalloyed excellence is over. It's hegemony is just beginning.
The world of SF (movies and TV) is waking up. Before 1977 the highest grossing movies were things like Gone With The Wind. Now in 2019 Avengers Endgame just passed Avatar as the highest money taking reel of moving pictures ever. The rest of the Top 10 are all SF/Fantasy. That change started with Star Wars in 1977/78.
It's well recognised that el cheapo DW suffers and suffered in comparison to Industrial Light and Magic but I think it's possible to argue that DW also prospered (overall) because of the increased popularity of (and demand for) SF and fantasy movies and TV.
There's still more than a decade of classic DW to come. There will be moments when we don't want to go on ("Where is the Chimeron queen? ") and others when resurrection and redemption are acting in unison ("-One of the readings is ectopic, sir. -What does that mean? -That one of the lifeforms has two hearts"...) Some of it is memorable and among the best of the series. Other bits less so but we've discovered in this blog that the early days were not completely perfect either. And the new series is more than a quarter of a century away yet.
479 episodes down, 372 to go. Not even close to finished.
Are we having fun yet? This is gonna get a bit harder from here.
I think we've got our blog ratings pretty right. 2 all time clangers (Underworld, Invisible E), a struggler (Invasion), 1 reserve grade (Image), 2 minor classics (neither of them near THE top) (Horror, SunM's)
But the quality of the scripts is a serious problem. It shows what a remarkable achievement the previous 8 series has actually been. The script mess is not unprecedented (hello Series 6) nor is it never gonna happen again (hello series 23).
The series average rating from the DW Marathon Blog has mostly maintained or increased every series since John Wiles reign.
The series 15 plunge from mid 80's to high 50's is sudden and unprecedented. But it might be a thing made of the statistics. Arguably if the top and bottom scores are removed we've still got another horrible clanger and a classic. The average rating is a product of DUAL clangers in a short 6 serial season. (Series 3 had 3 clangers out of 10 with 2 good and the rest very ho-hum. Series 13 had a clanger too and ended up no.2 on the list.)
Series | DW MBlog Avg. Rating |
1 | 58.2% |
2 | 64.8% |
3 | 54.1% |
4 | 67.2% |
5 | 69.2% |
6 | 60.3% |
7 | 77.4% |
8 | 72.3% |
9 | 72.1% |
10 | 72.2% |
11 | 72.6% |
12 | 76.0% |
13 | 83.5% |
14 | 84.8% |
15 | 57.1% |
80% + = classic!
70-80% = 1st division
60-70% = 2nd division
50-60% = 3rd division
40-50% = trouble
<40% = clanger!!
It was an amazing run. It had to end. But this way? This bad? Unlike in Series 4 the climb back will be long and hard, full of false dawns and not all in the right direction.
But why? Was it the (effective) sacking of Hinchcliffe? Was it the way Robert Holmes' departure was managed? Is Anthony Read a unsuitable as script editior? (Alongside other DW script editors he does seem a bit second division....) Clearly the handover of script editors is reminiscent of Series 11. But the biggest obvious difference is the new guy has never worked on DW before. If the script ed had been Robert Banks Stewart or Chris Boucher or even Bob Baker he would have coped better with script fall throughs. (He'd have seen it happen before, at least.)
Is Graham Williams a poor producer or just failing to achieve when faced with the impossible? If George Gallacio or David Maloney had been appointed producer then maybe someone with a bit more care for the product would be in charge.
Given the budget troubles they may not have had any better success however. It is very f-ing hard to be innovative and have artistic integrity when headaches about how to pay the bills take over the daily agenda. There is a rumour that the 26 episodes of Series 15 had a 40% budget cut compared to Series 14 ON TOP of the rampant inflation. If that's true the miracle is that there's 26 episodes at all, not whether they're any good or not.
The decade of DW's unalloyed excellence is over. It's hegemony is just beginning.
The world of SF (movies and TV) is waking up. Before 1977 the highest grossing movies were things like Gone With The Wind. Now in 2019 Avengers Endgame just passed Avatar as the highest money taking reel of moving pictures ever. The rest of the Top 10 are all SF/Fantasy. That change started with Star Wars in 1977/78.
It's well recognised that el cheapo DW suffers and suffered in comparison to Industrial Light and Magic but I think it's possible to argue that DW also prospered (overall) because of the increased popularity of (and demand for) SF and fantasy movies and TV.
There's still more than a decade of classic DW to come. There will be moments when we don't want to go on ("Where is the Chimeron queen? ") and others when resurrection and redemption are acting in unison ("-One of the readings is ectopic, sir. -What does that mean? -That one of the lifeforms has two hearts"...) Some of it is memorable and among the best of the series. Other bits less so but we've discovered in this blog that the early days were not completely perfect either. And the new series is more than a quarter of a century away yet.
479 episodes down, 372 to go. Not even close to finished.
Are we having fun yet? This is gonna get a bit harder from here.
Thursday, 8 August 2019
097 The Invasion of Time
Started 10-Aug
What a glorious mess!
The tone is actually very good.
The feeling is sparse, empty, lonely. There are scene setting scenes which serve to make Gallifrey seem to be 'on the top of a high mountain' or something.
John Arnatt as Borusa and, to a lesser extent, Milton Johns as Kelner are the apparatchiks of a corrupt, useless, fossilised bureaucracy.
Hilary Ryan is good as Rodan at the start but suffers from being crowded out as the narrative gathers a crowd (of guards, Shobogans and other Time Lords) in ep4,5,6.
The actual plot is exciting and fast paced but is entirely inexplicable and unexplained. Sure the Doctor's aim is duplicitous. He's tricking the Vardans all along. And then the Sontarans seem to trick 'em both. And it all serves as a direct challenge to the viewer (whether casual or deep dive fan) which strains the credulity to the limit.
But why? There's not even a line (even "...anarchy for Gallifrey, is coming someday") which suggests why this particular strategy is ideal, better or even mildly advantageous. And that makes the story so hollow.
Whatever the lack of logic behind the strategy is, morally it's appalling considering the consequential, indiscriminate loss of life.
By the last two eps this is even worse. The plot in ep5&6 is basically Sontarans chase the good guys for this new Maguffin, the Great key.. referred to earlier in ep2 in a throwaway line but otherwise pointless and never heard of again..
In both last 2 eps there are several scenes which seem to lack basic continuity with those around them. The script is a mess with corny, boring lines and made-up maguffin-ey "fiddle about with the shields" rubbish which seems to serve no other purpose than to pad out time.
The conclusion is just bizarrely silly. Stor's 'fission' grenade which threatens to destroy an entire galaxy is one (dopey) thing but the scene before the Sontaran leader decides to give up, commit hara-kiri and take everyone and everything with him, they had just made some progress by switching off the interference inhibiting their tracker technology. So a development followed by... let's cut to a stupid confrontation. And Doctor uses a super ray gun... to destroy just one Sontaran and then (by magic?) he gets amnesia.... then Leela decides to give up trying by marrying the first guard guy she meets..... The last two eps lose this half a point and that's generous. The end of ep6 is pretty lame.
Tom's performance has changed markedly over the course of this series. He is barely recognisable since the serious dramatic Mr Grumpity of Horror of Fang Rock. He looks frustrated. As if someone is forced to tell him to 'just shutup and say the lines, Tom' on a daily basis.
Leela bows out in a ridiculous move that rivals Dodo's exit for carelessness. Any excuse to stay would have been better than romance with Andred (as played by the very gay Chris Tranchell.) How about a job offer from Rodan's boss? Or a Shobogan kidnap? Or the CIA recruit her as a security consultant? At least any of those would have a shred of credibility.
Louise Jameson is very professional actor who made a damned good fist of some atrocious writing especially in the second year. Like Elisabeth Sladen she missed out on a genre career. Unlike Elisabeth she did go on to regular roles in other big TV shows (Tenko, The Omega Factor, Bergerac, Eastenders, Doc Martin )
She has personal achievement on her resume as well. Her volunteer job as a prison visitor and her part in the reform of Les Grantham (Kiston in Resurrection of the Daleks) is little short of heroic. At Christmas 1986, an alltime record UK TV audience (30.15 million) watched Les as Den Watts in Eastenders serve divorce papers on Angie Watts. There is a movie in that guy's life too.
Anyhow.... beware the Black Guardian....beware.
ABM Rating 2.02/4.00
LJM Rating 2.00/5.00
SPJ Rating 4.70/10
No. 82 (out of 97)
Link to Cumulative Rankings
Rankings Scoreboard
What a glorious mess!
The tone is actually very good.
The feeling is sparse, empty, lonely. There are scene setting scenes which serve to make Gallifrey seem to be 'on the top of a high mountain' or something.
John Arnatt as Borusa and, to a lesser extent, Milton Johns as Kelner are the apparatchiks of a corrupt, useless, fossilised bureaucracy.
Hilary Ryan is good as Rodan at the start but suffers from being crowded out as the narrative gathers a crowd (of guards, Shobogans and other Time Lords) in ep4,5,6.
The actual plot is exciting and fast paced but is entirely inexplicable and unexplained. Sure the Doctor's aim is duplicitous. He's tricking the Vardans all along. And then the Sontarans seem to trick 'em both. And it all serves as a direct challenge to the viewer (whether casual or deep dive fan) which strains the credulity to the limit.
But why? There's not even a line (even "...anarchy for Gallifrey, is coming someday") which suggests why this particular strategy is ideal, better or even mildly advantageous. And that makes the story so hollow.
Whatever the lack of logic behind the strategy is, morally it's appalling considering the consequential, indiscriminate loss of life.
By the last two eps this is even worse. The plot in ep5&6 is basically Sontarans chase the good guys for this new Maguffin, the Great key.. referred to earlier in ep2 in a throwaway line but otherwise pointless and never heard of again..
In both last 2 eps there are several scenes which seem to lack basic continuity with those around them. The script is a mess with corny, boring lines and made-up maguffin-ey "fiddle about with the shields" rubbish which seems to serve no other purpose than to pad out time.
The conclusion is just bizarrely silly. Stor's 'fission' grenade which threatens to destroy an entire galaxy is one (dopey) thing but the scene before the Sontaran leader decides to give up, commit hara-kiri and take everyone and everything with him, they had just made some progress by switching off the interference inhibiting their tracker technology. So a development followed by... let's cut to a stupid confrontation. And Doctor uses a super ray gun... to destroy just one Sontaran and then (by magic?) he gets amnesia.... then Leela decides to give up trying by marrying the first guard guy she meets..... The last two eps lose this half a point and that's generous. The end of ep6 is pretty lame.
Tom's performance has changed markedly over the course of this series. He is barely recognisable since the serious dramatic Mr Grumpity of Horror of Fang Rock. He looks frustrated. As if someone is forced to tell him to 'just shutup and say the lines, Tom' on a daily basis.
Leela bows out in a ridiculous move that rivals Dodo's exit for carelessness. Any excuse to stay would have been better than romance with Andred (as played by the very gay Chris Tranchell.) How about a job offer from Rodan's boss? Or a Shobogan kidnap? Or the CIA recruit her as a security consultant? At least any of those would have a shred of credibility.
Louise Jameson is very professional actor who made a damned good fist of some atrocious writing especially in the second year. Like Elisabeth Sladen she missed out on a genre career. Unlike Elisabeth she did go on to regular roles in other big TV shows (Tenko, The Omega Factor, Bergerac, Eastenders, Doc Martin )
She has personal achievement on her resume as well. Her volunteer job as a prison visitor and her part in the reform of Les Grantham (Kiston in Resurrection of the Daleks) is little short of heroic. At Christmas 1986, an alltime record UK TV audience (30.15 million) watched Les as Den Watts in Eastenders serve divorce papers on Angie Watts. There is a movie in that guy's life too.
Anyhow.... beware the Black Guardian....beware.
ABM Rating 2.02/4.00
LJM Rating 2.00/5.00
SPJ Rating 4.70/10
No. 82 (out of 97)
Link to Cumulative Rankings
Rankings Scoreboard
Sunday, 4 August 2019
096 Underworld
Started 4-Aug
We watched the DVD transcribed xvid files. One episode at a time. That is genuinely as much as anyone can take at any one time.
Some DW's can be greedily yummed up 2 eps at a time. Some are a chore. This is like eating manure with bits of broken glass in it.
It's boring.
It's badly written.
It's badly directed.
It's boring.
It's badly acted.
It has 3 of the most unexciting episode cliffhangers ever. (There are mid episode ABCtv version season 22 "timing cut" cliffhangers which are better than these 3...and they're random)
Did I mention it's boring?
The bit with guards running (including a stumble) being repeated over and over.
The P7E planet (referred to in draft scripts as Hadis, luckily not called this on screen) is a very unbelievable idea. It should be hot, liquid magma not boring self illuminated CSO 'caves'....
How long have the trog slaves been eating (processed) rock?
The minor character Tala has precisely 3 lines in eps 2 and 3.
In p2....
TALA: Captain, the fuel's going.
TALA: Captain, the fuel's gone.
In p3...
TALA: Who was he?
And all these in p4 !!!
TALA: Captain.
TALA: We've enough to get away, but it'll be a slow journey.
TALA: Five, four, three, two, one.
TALA: Drive running.
TALA: I'm trying.
TALA: There is no more.
TALA: We don't have enough power to reach escape velocity.
TALA: Four sevenths light.
And Tala's lines are not even the shortest role or the most underwritten. Try Naia or Idmon. This indicates, apart from anything else, why this is boring.
What is the Oracle? Why? Where did it come from?
The plot is all holes. There's two whole episodes of run up a corridor/cave, get captured, escape, run up a corridor, repeat.
And did I say it was boring?
Short guide to symbolic naming in Underworld (this is the only thing that's any fun in this)
The episode running times are very short. 22m36s, 21m27s, 22m21s, 22m53s. Three of those are in the bottom 50 running times for DW eps. Lots of other serials have one quite short episode. The average running time of 22m24s is the 4th lowest in DW history.)
Here's the bottom 10
A low score and an alarming downward plunge.
1978 has arrived. Series 15 has two very awful serials so far. What of the last six-parter?
ABM Rating 0.75/4.00
LJM Rating 0.75/5.00
SPJ Rating 3.90/10
No. 94 (out of 96) (equal lowest rank with Invisible Enemy)(Celestial Toymaker is still worse.)
Link to Cumulative Rankings
Rankings Scoreboard
http://www.pagefillers.com/dwrg/underwo.htm
accessed 8-8-2019
"Whatever blows can be sucked!" by Hugh Sturgess 12/9/12
Oh, come on! The Doctor actually said that?! It's so brazen it's practically a single entendre.
Anyway, onto the story. It's awful. Absolutely dire. I watched this hoping to enjoy it on some level, but it's impossible. My mind feels hollow. Warriors of the Deep and its ilk at least are engagingly bad; Underworld flatlines almost instantly, but, like a zombie, lurches along at that (I guess appropriately) subterranean level of tedium for the rest of the four trudging episodes.
At this point in Season Fourteen, The Robots of Death was being shown. My God, how the mighty are fallen! This isn't even the worst story of Season Fifteen, when one remembers The Invisible Enemy (also by Bob Baker and David Martin) and The Invasion of Time. Ladies and gentlemen, that is a reign of evil. True, Season Fifteen was made under horrendous financial pressure: inflation was above 20%, economic growth was sluggish and Underworld suffered as a result. But what's present here is a dearth of imagination, not money. In fact, you won't hear any mention of the CSO caves after this paragraph. To be honest, they're not bad. Characters even cast shadows on them! Their main problems are the resulting lack of atmosphere and the occasional doubling up of backdrops, which makes it impossible to work out the geography of the story. But if you're watching Underworld for the effects, you're doing it wrong.
Underworld both sucks and blows for one basic reason that has nothing to do with filthy lucre: it's boring. Like the Quest itself, it goes on and on, without remembering why. The audience endures endless, dreary scenes filled with charmless, wooden characters. The boredom infects everything: the acting is boring, the plot is boring, the design is boring, the direction is boring. Music is nearly absent, and when it isn't it's some of Dudley Simpson's work that makes you agree with JNT's decision to get rid of him come Season Eighteen. There's a good story buried in here somewhere: the Golden Fleece is a timeless story first told over two-thousand years ago and still told today. Underworld is timeless, in that it drags so much that time seems to stand still.
Even in moments where there is plot, it's still boring. The flatness of the whole enterprise sucks whatever draw-factor the story has out of it. The fault isn't just the direction, but its responsibility is huge. Norman Stewart had no training as a director before this story, but got promoted because he found a way to afford the spaceship set. Very commendable, but that makes him more to blame for this sucking nexus of anti-excitement than just his director's credit would suggest. However, there remains the hideous thought that Graham Williams considered this a success, since he hired Stewart to make The Power of Kroll next year, despite the man protesting that he wasn't fit to be a director.
Stewart can't be blamed for the quality of the script, but what he's done is make a poor story poorer. He has no idea about editing multi-camera video into a coherent whole, so the actors are delivering their lines in a vacuum. The set-up is entirely static, interspersed with occasional cuts for no reason; the cut to the Doctor's "physics is about facts" homily in Part Two is amateurish, and the nearby scene in which Herrick leaves a marker and goes on a reconnoitre is so poorly shot it's actually incomprehensible. Set-pieces are drained of drama and in the battle scenes the players mill about aimlessly without any urgency: the examples are endless, but the cliffhanger to Part Three and its resolution are pretty good ones; later in the story, Leela shoots one guard and the other just stands there for the rest of the scene as though invisible. Odd shots are repeated, usually of people running along cave tunnels (the three white-clad guards running along, and one of them half-slipping, is a favourite).
The acting is atrocious. The characters listlessly deliver their lines in a stately monotone. The crew of the R1C is plain beyond imagination, with James Maxwell taking every opportunity to underwhelm and Alan Lake providing the obligatory hot-headed idiot to spice up the wall-to-wall cardboard, but the most prominent offender is Tom Baker. He stalks through this story like a somnambulist, and seems to be in a permanent bad mood. He looks bored and his performance doesn't even qualify as phoning it in. Witness his terribly-acted shock and delivery of "2,000 megatons!!!", or the crap handling of the aforementioned "physics is about facts" dialogue. The Doctor is just a crushing bore in this story, with even the lighter moments flapping around aimlessly, and his less-than-hilarious schtick (the "makes a noise and shushes Leela" thing in particular) goes over like a lead balloon. He doesn't even bother putting emphasis into his dialogue, though that's something shared by everyone in the story. Half the cast constantly deliver their lines in a restrained murmur, while the other half (the villains) shout everything.
There's an exciting story lurking somewhere in the basic outline. This is the story of a hundred-thousand-year quest to the edge of the universe and to the centre of a planet, and yet nothing of any interest is found there. Every millisecond is predictable. There are the human slaves... who live under the evil guards... who answer to a priestly caste... who conduct sacrifices and worship a megalomaniac computer... Zzz... The Trogs and the guards are losers who don't do anything. I didn't actively wish them harm, but it never occurred to me that they presented a genuine threat to even the R1C crew on their own. They might be a nuisance, but that's it. The Doctor even points out the limpness of the "the Oracle is a mad computer" cliche! The main character has passed judgement on the story. Case closed.
And then K9 declares the story's conceit - Jason and the Argonauts in space - to be essentially crap. "What do you think K9?" "Negative." This review writes itself.
The entire story is a nested series of disappointments. The Minyans have spent a thousand centuries searching... for some canisters of DNA; 100,000 years of reproduction in a high-radiation environment has turned the inhabitants of the P7E into drippy losers with characters so thin and unmemorable that Jackson and his troupe become almost charismatic; the guards have a cool costume (I'm a-frightened of masks, so a masked villain is always a plus), but underneath that they're fat security guards who shout things like "Treachery! Heresy!" and, about three minutes into Part Four, one leaves a pause before speaking that is so long that it makes him look like a complete dolt, courtesy of Norman Stewart's shithouse dubbing.
They're also dumb as dogshit: the two running the fumigation don't realise that the gas has been pumped into their own control room, even as their minions cough and fall over. They have advance warning of the Doctor, Leela and Bland Young Native entering the P7E, but they are somehow still surprised and overwhelmed, despite facing only one armed opponent. Then the Seers take off their hoods and things look up for a moment. OK, they look like steampunk Bananas in Pajamas, or man-sized dildos designed by Satan, but I like them. They're crazy, but in a classic Doctor Who sort of way. They look like robots, though they clearly have emotions and speak as though they have been "enhanced" by the Oracle - but they turn out to be dolts as well. Even the Oracle is stupid: handing out planet-cracking "grenades" that even you can't deactivate is a bad move on every level.
(Though, that said, I liked that little hopeless reproach from the Seer just before they all get blown up: "Why not?" "You made it so." That's a man who's realised he's invested blind faith in a god that's frankly rubbish, that is.)
A observation: the Seers' sacrifice (yes, it's another Graham Williams story with a ridiculously complicated sacrifice in it) is called "the Question of the Sword", as - symbolically - the question of how and when we will meet our deaths is hanging over all of us, which weirdly reminded me of the Silence. "Silence will fall when the Question is asked." And the Minyans used to worship the Time Lords as gods...
The Graham Williams house style is "lots of ideas, shame about the execution". Sometimes, the Williams era produces something awesome - City of Death, The Ribos Operation, etc. - but more often you'll lament its inability to get its concepts on screen. The Pirate Planet is botched by "comedy" acting and drippy characters, while The Invasion of Time, written in a hurry, has plenty of ideas with huge potential, just squandered by crap on every level. Underworld is different. I'm not sure there ARE lots of ideas here. The classic Bob Baker and Dave Martin idea-explosion is absent. What we have here: shield guns, pacifiers, the civilisation inside a planet... Yeah, not much.
Then there is the Unique Selling Point: this may come as a shock to you, but SOME REVIEWERS have found a lot of similarities between Underworld and the myth of Jason and the Argonauts. No, seriously. Anthony Read gave Baker and Martin this idea, I believe, and he'd use it himself with the minotaur in The Horns of Nimon. ...But why? Like The Horns of Nimon, Underworld transcribes the myth to outer space in a suitably lame fashion, having ripped out anything of any worth or weight first. The crew of the R1C aren't heroic adventurers and pioneers (the Argonauts, let's remember, were sort of a cross between the Dirty Dozen and the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), they're pen-pushing careerists. The Golden Fleece becomes DNA canisters. And replacing the dragons protecting it with crackling lines of electricity is so crass it's almost insulting.
The story copies the myth, step-by-step, with clunking SF literalism, and is so pleased with itself that it insists on constantly pointing out the translation with smug self-satisfaction. There isn't the slightest effort to make this all seem magical or mythic; it seems to be enough that it's a copy of Jason and the Argonauts, rather than something of similar power. This needed to be more operatic. This needed to be more epic. But the show didn't have enough money for that, and anyway the Williams era does not do operatic and it does not do epic. Fantasy is meant to make stories bigger, not smaller.
I've used the word "boring" a lot, but that's because that was my overwhelming response. Underworld simply bores from beginning to end. Even the first episode, which other reviews have judged to be either goodish or at least tolerable, sapped my will to live right from the start. Terms such as "entertainment", "excitement" and "adventure" simply did not exist for me in those 100 crawling minutes. Truly terrible. To raise my spirits, I think I may watch a comparatively towering titan of quality, like The Unicorn and the Wasp or Timelash, perhaps.
Steam punk Bananas in Pyjamas, yesterday... |
We watched the DVD transcribed xvid files. One episode at a time. That is genuinely as much as anyone can take at any one time.
Some DW's can be greedily yummed up 2 eps at a time. Some are a chore. This is like eating manure with bits of broken glass in it.
It's boring.
It's badly written.
It's badly directed.
It's boring.
It's badly acted.
It has 3 of the most unexciting episode cliffhangers ever. (There are mid episode ABCtv version season 22 "timing cut" cliffhangers which are better than these 3...and they're random)
Did I mention it's boring?
The bit with guards running (including a stumble) being repeated over and over.
The P7E planet (referred to in draft scripts as Hadis, luckily not called this on screen) is a very unbelievable idea. It should be hot, liquid magma not boring self illuminated CSO 'caves'....
How long have the trog slaves been eating (processed) rock?
The minor character Tala has precisely 3 lines in eps 2 and 3.
In p2....
TALA: Captain, the fuel's going.
TALA: Captain, the fuel's gone.
In p3...
TALA: Who was he?
And all these in p4 !!!
TALA: Captain.
TALA: We've enough to get away, but it'll be a slow journey.
TALA: Five, four, three, two, one.
TALA: Drive running.
TALA: I'm trying.
TALA: There is no more.
TALA: We don't have enough power to reach escape velocity.
TALA: Four sevenths light.
And Tala's lines are not even the shortest role or the most underwritten. Try Naia or Idmon. This indicates, apart from anything else, why this is boring.
What is the Oracle? Why? Where did it come from?
The plot is all holes. There's two whole episodes of run up a corridor/cave, get captured, escape, run up a corridor, repeat.
And did I say it was boring?
Short guide to symbolic naming in Underworld (this is the only thing that's any fun in this)
- Ankh is the Eqyptian Goddess of Fertility
- Lakh is the Indian number 100 000.
- The Oracle = the Delphic Oracle, aka the Pythia which gave prophecies only on the seventh day of each month, seven being the number most associated with Apollo.
- P7E = Persephone
- R1C = Argo-sey, (a sort of nick name for the journey of the Argo, as in Odys-sey....)
- Minyans = Minoans
- Jackson = Jason (played by James Maxwell a noted Manchester theatre director (so wasted in this))
- Herrick = Heracles (played by third husband of Diana Dors (he called her Madame Tits and Lips) his life was tragedy heaped upon outrage (the biopic movie is still waiting to be made however and it will be a humdinger!) (so wasted in this))
- Orfe = Orpheus (played by prolific tv and film actor Jonathan Newth, he's the blind Doctor in Day of the Triffids (1981) (so wasted in this))
- Tala = Atalanta or Talaus (played by Imogen Bickford-Smith who is immortal as Mr Johnson's smuggled girfriend in the Fawlty Towers ep. about Psychiatrists ("Mr Fawlty.. he get ladder to see in room to see girl...") curiously another almost non-speaking part (even so she is wasted in this))
- Rask = nineteenth-century Danish philologist Ramus Rask (played by James Marcus who was a Droog in A Clockwork Orange (1971) (so wasted in this))
- Tarn = nineteenth-century French poet Pauline Tarn (played by prolific film and tv actor Godfrey James (so wasted in this))
- Klimt = early twentieth-century Austrian painter Gustav Klimt (played by DW bit part regular Jay Neill (so wasted in this))
- Clashing Rocks = Symplegades, also called the Clashing (or Cyanean) Rocks. These were large boulders situated along the Bosphorus which haphazardly smashed into one another, destroying any ship which was caught in-between
- Idmon = In Greek mythology, Idmon (in Ancient Greek, means "having knowledge of") was an Argonaut seer. Idmon foresaw his own death in the Argonaut expedition, but joined anyway. (played by noted film bit part actor Jimmy Gardner (he was 53 when he appeared in Underworld... no way!)) (so wasted in this)
- Idas = In Greek mythology a Messenian prince. He was one of the Argonauts, a participant in the hunt for the Calydonian Boar and contender with the gods. Idas was described as keen and spirited (played by Norman Tipton who is famous for TV ads in the UK (so wasted in this))
- Naia = popular name given to 12000yo human skeleton discovered in Yucatan in 2007 (so not actually a 1977 idea!!) (played by Stacey Tendeter who was famous for appearing in Francois Truffaut's Two English Girls (1971)) (so wasted in this...)
The episode running times are very short. 22m36s, 21m27s, 22m21s, 22m53s. Three of those are in the bottom 50 running times for DW eps. Lots of other serials have one quite short episode. The average running time of 22m24s is the 4th lowest in DW history.)
Here's the bottom 10
Rank |
Title | Serial avg running time minutes |
1 | The Mind Robber | 21m24s |
2 | Meglos | 21m42s |
3 | The Leisure Hive | 21m42s |
4 | Underworld | 22m24s |
5 | The Krotons | 22m36s |
6 | The Power of Kroll | 22m48s |
7 | The Space Museum | 22m54s |
8 | Full Circle | 23m12s |
9 | The Invisible Enemy | 23m18s |
10 | The Wheel In Space | 23m24s |
A low score and an alarming downward plunge.
1978 has arrived. Series 15 has two very awful serials so far. What of the last six-parter?
ABM Rating 0.75/4.00
LJM Rating 0.75/5.00
SPJ Rating 3.90/10
No. 94 (out of 96) (equal lowest rank with Invisible Enemy)(Celestial Toymaker is still worse.)
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"Whatever blows can be sucked!" by Hugh Sturgess 12/9/12
Oh, come on! The Doctor actually said that?! It's so brazen it's practically a single entendre.
Anyway, onto the story. It's awful. Absolutely dire. I watched this hoping to enjoy it on some level, but it's impossible. My mind feels hollow. Warriors of the Deep and its ilk at least are engagingly bad; Underworld flatlines almost instantly, but, like a zombie, lurches along at that (I guess appropriately) subterranean level of tedium for the rest of the four trudging episodes.
At this point in Season Fourteen, The Robots of Death was being shown. My God, how the mighty are fallen! This isn't even the worst story of Season Fifteen, when one remembers The Invisible Enemy (also by Bob Baker and David Martin) and The Invasion of Time. Ladies and gentlemen, that is a reign of evil. True, Season Fifteen was made under horrendous financial pressure: inflation was above 20%, economic growth was sluggish and Underworld suffered as a result. But what's present here is a dearth of imagination, not money. In fact, you won't hear any mention of the CSO caves after this paragraph. To be honest, they're not bad. Characters even cast shadows on them! Their main problems are the resulting lack of atmosphere and the occasional doubling up of backdrops, which makes it impossible to work out the geography of the story. But if you're watching Underworld for the effects, you're doing it wrong.
Underworld both sucks and blows for one basic reason that has nothing to do with filthy lucre: it's boring. Like the Quest itself, it goes on and on, without remembering why. The audience endures endless, dreary scenes filled with charmless, wooden characters. The boredom infects everything: the acting is boring, the plot is boring, the design is boring, the direction is boring. Music is nearly absent, and when it isn't it's some of Dudley Simpson's work that makes you agree with JNT's decision to get rid of him come Season Eighteen. There's a good story buried in here somewhere: the Golden Fleece is a timeless story first told over two-thousand years ago and still told today. Underworld is timeless, in that it drags so much that time seems to stand still.
Even in moments where there is plot, it's still boring. The flatness of the whole enterprise sucks whatever draw-factor the story has out of it. The fault isn't just the direction, but its responsibility is huge. Norman Stewart had no training as a director before this story, but got promoted because he found a way to afford the spaceship set. Very commendable, but that makes him more to blame for this sucking nexus of anti-excitement than just his director's credit would suggest. However, there remains the hideous thought that Graham Williams considered this a success, since he hired Stewart to make The Power of Kroll next year, despite the man protesting that he wasn't fit to be a director.
Stewart can't be blamed for the quality of the script, but what he's done is make a poor story poorer. He has no idea about editing multi-camera video into a coherent whole, so the actors are delivering their lines in a vacuum. The set-up is entirely static, interspersed with occasional cuts for no reason; the cut to the Doctor's "physics is about facts" homily in Part Two is amateurish, and the nearby scene in which Herrick leaves a marker and goes on a reconnoitre is so poorly shot it's actually incomprehensible. Set-pieces are drained of drama and in the battle scenes the players mill about aimlessly without any urgency: the examples are endless, but the cliffhanger to Part Three and its resolution are pretty good ones; later in the story, Leela shoots one guard and the other just stands there for the rest of the scene as though invisible. Odd shots are repeated, usually of people running along cave tunnels (the three white-clad guards running along, and one of them half-slipping, is a favourite).
The acting is atrocious. The characters listlessly deliver their lines in a stately monotone. The crew of the R1C is plain beyond imagination, with James Maxwell taking every opportunity to underwhelm and Alan Lake providing the obligatory hot-headed idiot to spice up the wall-to-wall cardboard, but the most prominent offender is Tom Baker. He stalks through this story like a somnambulist, and seems to be in a permanent bad mood. He looks bored and his performance doesn't even qualify as phoning it in. Witness his terribly-acted shock and delivery of "2,000 megatons!!!", or the crap handling of the aforementioned "physics is about facts" dialogue. The Doctor is just a crushing bore in this story, with even the lighter moments flapping around aimlessly, and his less-than-hilarious schtick (the "makes a noise and shushes Leela" thing in particular) goes over like a lead balloon. He doesn't even bother putting emphasis into his dialogue, though that's something shared by everyone in the story. Half the cast constantly deliver their lines in a restrained murmur, while the other half (the villains) shout everything.
There's an exciting story lurking somewhere in the basic outline. This is the story of a hundred-thousand-year quest to the edge of the universe and to the centre of a planet, and yet nothing of any interest is found there. Every millisecond is predictable. There are the human slaves... who live under the evil guards... who answer to a priestly caste... who conduct sacrifices and worship a megalomaniac computer... Zzz... The Trogs and the guards are losers who don't do anything. I didn't actively wish them harm, but it never occurred to me that they presented a genuine threat to even the R1C crew on their own. They might be a nuisance, but that's it. The Doctor even points out the limpness of the "the Oracle is a mad computer" cliche! The main character has passed judgement on the story. Case closed.
And then K9 declares the story's conceit - Jason and the Argonauts in space - to be essentially crap. "What do you think K9?" "Negative." This review writes itself.
The entire story is a nested series of disappointments. The Minyans have spent a thousand centuries searching... for some canisters of DNA; 100,000 years of reproduction in a high-radiation environment has turned the inhabitants of the P7E into drippy losers with characters so thin and unmemorable that Jackson and his troupe become almost charismatic; the guards have a cool costume (I'm a-frightened of masks, so a masked villain is always a plus), but underneath that they're fat security guards who shout things like "Treachery! Heresy!" and, about three minutes into Part Four, one leaves a pause before speaking that is so long that it makes him look like a complete dolt, courtesy of Norman Stewart's shithouse dubbing.
They're also dumb as dogshit: the two running the fumigation don't realise that the gas has been pumped into their own control room, even as their minions cough and fall over. They have advance warning of the Doctor, Leela and Bland Young Native entering the P7E, but they are somehow still surprised and overwhelmed, despite facing only one armed opponent. Then the Seers take off their hoods and things look up for a moment. OK, they look like steampunk Bananas in Pajamas, or man-sized dildos designed by Satan, but I like them. They're crazy, but in a classic Doctor Who sort of way. They look like robots, though they clearly have emotions and speak as though they have been "enhanced" by the Oracle - but they turn out to be dolts as well. Even the Oracle is stupid: handing out planet-cracking "grenades" that even you can't deactivate is a bad move on every level.
(Though, that said, I liked that little hopeless reproach from the Seer just before they all get blown up: "Why not?" "You made it so." That's a man who's realised he's invested blind faith in a god that's frankly rubbish, that is.)
A observation: the Seers' sacrifice (yes, it's another Graham Williams story with a ridiculously complicated sacrifice in it) is called "the Question of the Sword", as - symbolically - the question of how and when we will meet our deaths is hanging over all of us, which weirdly reminded me of the Silence. "Silence will fall when the Question is asked." And the Minyans used to worship the Time Lords as gods...
The Graham Williams house style is "lots of ideas, shame about the execution". Sometimes, the Williams era produces something awesome - City of Death, The Ribos Operation, etc. - but more often you'll lament its inability to get its concepts on screen. The Pirate Planet is botched by "comedy" acting and drippy characters, while The Invasion of Time, written in a hurry, has plenty of ideas with huge potential, just squandered by crap on every level. Underworld is different. I'm not sure there ARE lots of ideas here. The classic Bob Baker and Dave Martin idea-explosion is absent. What we have here: shield guns, pacifiers, the civilisation inside a planet... Yeah, not much.
Then there is the Unique Selling Point: this may come as a shock to you, but SOME REVIEWERS have found a lot of similarities between Underworld and the myth of Jason and the Argonauts. No, seriously. Anthony Read gave Baker and Martin this idea, I believe, and he'd use it himself with the minotaur in The Horns of Nimon. ...But why? Like The Horns of Nimon, Underworld transcribes the myth to outer space in a suitably lame fashion, having ripped out anything of any worth or weight first. The crew of the R1C aren't heroic adventurers and pioneers (the Argonauts, let's remember, were sort of a cross between the Dirty Dozen and the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), they're pen-pushing careerists. The Golden Fleece becomes DNA canisters. And replacing the dragons protecting it with crackling lines of electricity is so crass it's almost insulting.
The story copies the myth, step-by-step, with clunking SF literalism, and is so pleased with itself that it insists on constantly pointing out the translation with smug self-satisfaction. There isn't the slightest effort to make this all seem magical or mythic; it seems to be enough that it's a copy of Jason and the Argonauts, rather than something of similar power. This needed to be more operatic. This needed to be more epic. But the show didn't have enough money for that, and anyway the Williams era does not do operatic and it does not do epic. Fantasy is meant to make stories bigger, not smaller.
I've used the word "boring" a lot, but that's because that was my overwhelming response. Underworld simply bores from beginning to end. Even the first episode, which other reviews have judged to be either goodish or at least tolerable, sapped my will to live right from the start. Terms such as "entertainment", "excitement" and "adventure" simply did not exist for me in those 100 crawling minutes. Truly terrible. To raise my spirits, I think I may watch a comparatively towering titan of quality, like The Unicorn and the Wasp or Timelash, perhaps.
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